WSA telcon
22 May 2003

Attendees

Contents

• Agenda Items
• Summary of Action Items

<scribe_mj> May 1 minutes approved.
... The WD got published.
... Mike C would like to get additional material from Rennes into an editor's draft ASAP.
... Going through f2f action items ...
... action was - Chairs will put MEP drilldown discussions on agenda(s) in near future.
... ACTION: chairs should figure out the context for the MEP drilldown.
... ACTION: chairs will confirm the dates of upcoming f2fs with the hosts
... action was - Editors will put in a paragraph in 2.1 making the point that
... "concepts" are nouns and "relationships" are verbs
... ACTION: editors will update 2.1 to explain the organization principals better.
... action was - WSA will write up our own take on the Plato-Aristotle debate on the true meaning of "resource" -- concrete thing or shadow of it
... ACTION: editors should propose a way of distinguishing "resource" and other uses of ids (qnames, conversation ids, etc.)
... action was - add "try to improve wording of glossary entry for synchronous" to issues list, low priority
... ACTION: issues list editor (Tom) should add an issue to improve the wording of "synchronous"

<dbooth> +1 to Martin's suggestion!
... +1 to DougB's suggestion!

<scribe_mj> DougB suggested that the issue should have a proposal attached to it before we revisit.
... action - rework two paras in section 2.1 that address conformance as described in the above proposal
... (from 10:39 on day 1 of f2f)

<geoff_a> Has any other W3C body ever addressed the concept of conformance? If not, this sounds like a TAG-level issue...

<scribe_mj> ACTION: Frank will tackle the issue of conformance and should relate it to RFC 2119.
... action - section 2.1, para 2 - and concept that summary and relations are more definitive/precise and description is for general understanding
... ACTION: add this to Frank's task above
... action - 2.2.31 Service needs to be reconciled with WSDL 1.2
... the wg is actively working on this ...
... ACTION: Frank will find a good definition of IS-A and HAS-A in the UML domain and suggest for our normative definition
... ACTION: Chairs will begin notifying people of lack of good standing and
... applying W3C rules consistently. The chairs will research the specific rules.
... ACTION: Editors should adopt WSDL definitions for "endpoint" and "interface".
... ACTION: Editors should make sure that "port" and "porttype" are no longer used.

<Daniel> Greetings to all; sorry I'm late

<scribe_mj> action - UML diagram for service drawn in Rennes needs to be incorporated into text.
... The WG is actively working on this ...
... ACTION: martin will try to create a harvesting of SOAP as we did with WSDL
... ACTION: CHairs should turn the Friday morning f2f discussion into action items or recruit someone to do it.

<DaveH> brb

<Hao> BTW, what happened to the WSDL harvesting material?

<scribe_mj> ACTION: Mike C will propose some wording by next f2f to put REST to rest.
... [agenda] Consolidating / Confirming F2F decisions, moving forward

<DaveH> help q

<Daniel> gotta run folks, see you next week

<scribe_mj> 2 points of view
... WSDL group says users can invent a service group if they want
... others want to have a feature in WSDL to express it directly
... this may just reflect a dynamic/static distinction

<DaveH> Please define "provider" and consumer" before tackling service groups

<scribe_mj> ACTION: Frank will draft some text to clarify the service group issue

<DaveH> what is a uri of a service? IT IS NOT target/@resource

<scribe_mj> ACTION: editors should review Mike Mahan's privacy text and incorporate it.
... ACTION: editors should also review Abbie's security text and incorporate it.

Summary of Action Items