Web Services Coordination Group
30 Sep 2003

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Contents

• Topics
  1. Review action items from previous meeting
  2. Tech Plenary scheduling
  3. WS WG Reports
  4. WSAWG-related. What does WSDL describe in the SOAP world exactly (intermediaries, actor address, etc.)
  5. Joint meeting
• Summary of Action Items

<hugo> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-cg/2003Sep/0029.html

Review action items from previous meeting

<hugo> Reading from http://www.w3.org/2003/09/16-ws-cg-irc
... DONE: Marsh to send email to member ws-cg list to ask where motivation for OASIS coordination meeting
... ACTION: David to check about possibility of collocating a f2f with XML2003 [IN PROGRESS]
... XMLPWG is leaning towards the West Coast
... HH thinks that rooms are available between Sat and Fri
... DONE: Hugo to formulate a concrete proposal (for Plenary w/ OASIS at XML2003)
... DONE: Hugo to get a list of OASIS TCs interested
... see agenda item
... ACTION: ST to formally ask WSChor if they have any dependencies on Schema [IN PROGRESS]
... DONE: Philippe investigate WD listings on TR page
... see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-cg/2003Sep/0025.html
... DONE: PH to copy XMLP WG on PASWA/WSDL proposal that was sent to WSD WG
... JM: we looked at different options for recording the media type information in a WSDL description
... ... we are going to circulate our proposal among other groups
... ... we may want to publish a Note as a result
... ... we are looking at a magic attribute
... MSM: the lightweight solution, that may be appropriate here, is to use an attribute in a new namespace, and define the semantics of this attribute

<ericm> ack

<hugo> EM: I would like to be included in the review of this proposal, and we need to have MSM involved too
... HH: the proposal should be presented to the WSCG in order for us to ensure coordination

Tech Plenary scheduling

<davidF> agenda item 4. Tech Plenary scheduling

<hugo> -- XML CG
... I was working on the TP organization

<davidF> ... March 2004 Tech Plenary, I think

<hugo> We now have until 10 October
... (MSM speaking)
... Please send me feedback so that I can try to resolve conflicts
... [ MSM describing the process for resolving conflicts ]
... See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-cg/2003Jul/0018.html
... ACTION: WG Chairs to look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-cg/2003Jul/0018.html and to response to Michael
... ACTION 3 = WG Chairs to look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-cg/2003Jul/0018.html and to response to Michael by Tuesday 7 October

WS WG Reports

<davidF> - XML CG

<hugo> -- SWeb

<ericm> RDF Core to 2nd last call schedule - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2003JulSep/0067.html

<hugo> -- Choreography
... MC: F2F 2 weeks ago
... ... transitioning from reqs to language
... ... 2 languages proposed, people are working on working out differences and similarities
... ... republication of the requirements document early November (before moratorium)
... -- Architecture
... MikeC: F2F last week
... ... made progress on shape of the document

<davidF> [DavidF notes thatwe are rolling agenda item 5 into the reports, i.e. agenda item 3]

<hugo> ... LCWD targetted for very early 2004
... -- Description
... JM: F2F last week
... ... trying to making decisions on our largest proposals
... ... LCWD for Dec 2003 / Jan 2004
... -- XMLP
... DF: trying to nail down reqs for "attachments" work
... ... we have a draft for a WD to publish
... ... publication aimed for mid-Oct
... ... the LCWD for the spec will hopefully happen by EOY

WSAWG-related. What does WSDL describe in the SOAP world exactly (intermediaries, actor address, etc.)

<davidF> [the XMLP spec is currently called "SOAP MEssage Transmission Optimization Mechanism" or "MTOM"]

<hugo> HH: basically, the WSDL description of a service maps in a blurry way to SOAP concepts
... JM: the SOAP 1.2 binding is the most underwork part of our spec

<davidF> JM: lack of work on SOAP binding by WSDL reflects interests of WG members

<hugo> HH: the WSAWG needs to work on this, and may have to work with the WSDWG once they start working on the SOAP binding
... JM: the binding will soon be the next thing we need to focus on

<davidF> JM: WG is very close to closing issues on Part 1 at which time will work on PArt 2 (SOAP binding)

Joint meeting with OASIS at XML 2003

<hugo> DF: this is something that we have been talking about for a little while
... ... maybe this reflect a lack of interest from the membership

<davidF> HH: maybe lack of interest is more a reflection of a lack of any good topics to discuss

<Marsh> Must go now - hosting another call...

<ericm> hmm... i think i make this point
... davidF, i'm going to have to wrap up for another meeting
... are we extending? or has the meeting adjounred?

<hugo> ... also at XML 2003, a town hall is being organized
... ... WS W3C people around should join in
... MikeC: how will it be organized?
... HH: not sure yet

<ericm> thanks all... got to run

<hugo> DF: this seems like the management asking us to do two things: meeting with OASIS, and do a town hall
... HH: this is what we hear from the AC the most: that we need to coordinate
... EM: yes, and we usually have little guidance over how to proceed
... HH: I think that this will be useful feedback to the AC
... ... our WG haven't received much feedback from OASIS; I don't know if it's because their TCs have no comments or if the bar to raise comments is somehow too high and information is not passing through
... ... it would be good to know

Summary of Action Items