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Semantic Annotations for WSDL WG teleconference

19 Sep 2006

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Attendees

Present
JF, LF, LH, JK, HL, EP, AS, TV
Regrets
RA, CB, JBD, NG, MK, JM, TP, CP, BNS, CV
Chair
JacekK
Scribe
ericP

Contents


<TomasV> amit, talk to you later

<scribe> scribe: ericP

Approval of minutes

RESOLUTION: approve both sets of minutes [http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060830] and [http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060912]

Action Items

<scribe> ACTION: EricP to add text gravy to his annotated Amazon WSDL and put it in Examples document [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060919#action01]

<scribe> ACTION: EricP to get feedback from XMLCore about attrExtensions element [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060919#action02]

<scribe> ACTION: JacekK to put appropriate WG members in bad standing, and not reference them in the acknowledgements [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060919#action03]

<scribe> ACTION: JacekK to respond to Pierre Chatel about our resolution to his issues [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060919#action04]

<scribe> ACTION: EricP to investigate relation of SAWSDL to WS-MEX [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060919#action05]

<scribe> ACTION: JacekK to suggest rewording for first paragraph of section 2.2 [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060919#action06]

<scribe> ACTION: JacekK to draft a paragraph about multiple schema mappings being alternatives (in 2.2) [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060919#action07]

<scribe> ACTION: JacekK to suggest in email to Rama, Joel and Holger (cc mailing list) to remove appendix B from spec, move to usage guide [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060919#action08]

<scribe> ACTION: Carlos to improve Laurent's proposed terminology according to our discussion and send to mailing list [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060919#action09]

Administrivia

JacekK: next f2f in GA. logistics page pending

Amit: how many should I plan for?

JacekK: 15 will leave room for observers
... we can set the registration timout for however much advance notice you need

Amit: for $25/person, I can outsource everything

ericP: does anyone have an administrative problem paying $25?

laura: could be a problem, but $25 is pretty small

JacekK: it seems that it would be $50 for both days, never seen a f2f where participants had to pay
... could Amit see if the lab budget cover the approx $600?

New terminology section?

- Proposal from Laurent http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-semann/2006Sep/0006

- Also comments from Laura http://www.w3.org/mid/9E577E61D0108D4F8CD482029B613F5C010A9425@PTPEVS108BA020.idc.cww.telecomitalia.it

laurenth: the goal was to break the circularity
... am happy with what Carlos proposed
... defn of semantics seems too general -- proposed text to constrain it to SAWSDL
... "relationships" should be covered by the term "concepts"
... only 5 occurances of "semantics" in the text. propose: "semantics in this specification refers to set of concepts ..."

Amit: may be good to qualify that it is "interpreted in the context of the conceptual model"
... [current text] is good

JacekK: current proposal is in laurenth's email includes quoted defns from Carlos's mail plus laurenth's defn for semantics

<JacekK> http://www.w3.org/mid/[email protected]

RESOLUTION: accept terminology suggestions proposed in laurenth's mail (above)

Document status, publication

Joel: incorporated comments -- spec is more readable now
... all that remains are subitems in agenda 6, removal of bad standing members, +ref to member submission
... holger moved appendix B to examples document. can restore if needed

JacekK: we have had time to review

RESOLUTION: accept amendments to section 2.2 listed in agenda

Joel: +1

RESOLUTION: Moving appendix B out of main spec per agendum

JacekK: use case editors may choose to adopt this text

<JacekK> http://www.w3.org/mid/[email protected]

PROPOSED: UDDI example IRI suggestion per agendum

Joel: would prefer to use 2002 URI
... would like to switch example to UDDI 3 -- confident doing that

JacekK: both good suggestions

RESOLUTION: the editor will update the UDDI-specific URIs

Joel: shall I remove the members listed as being in bad standing
... how do I handle John Miller?

JacekK: I will send you the text

poll: publish as LC?

Joel: I approve

Laura: I approve

laurenth: +1

holger: +1

ericP: +1

Amit: +1

TomasV: +1

RESOLUTION: all members present agree we will publish Last Call

JacekK: expect to pub by end of week. possible ericP?

ericP: sure. easy one to publish

JacekK: will send transition request

SAWSDL Poster

JacekK: concerns raised about proper attribution
... we can 1) withdraw, 2) change the authors, 3) change the title to "Status of SAWSDL" and make it clear that it is a product of the authors and not the WG
... prefer 3

Amit: if it's SAWSDL as a whole, should reflect WG authors. any other doc can have it's own authors.
... happy with JacekK's proposal (option 3)

RESOLUTION: change the title to "Status of SAWSDL" and make it clear that it is a product of the authors and not the WG

next meeting: 26 Sept

Summary of Action Items

[PENDING] ACTION: EricP to add text gravy to his annotated Amazon WSDL and put it in Examples document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060919#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: EricP to get feedback from XMLCore about attrExtensions element [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060919#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: EricP to investigate relation of SAWSDL to WS-MEX [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060919#action05]
[PENDING] ACTION: JacekK to put appropriate WG members in bad standing, and not reference them in the acknowledgements [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060919#action03]
 
[DONE] ACTION: Carlos to improve Laurent's proposed terminology according to our discussion and send to mailing list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060919#action09]
[DONE] ACTION: JacekK to draft a paragraph about multiple schema mappings being alternatives (in 2.2) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060919#action07]
[DONE] ACTION: JacekK to respond to Pierre Chatel about our resolution to his issues [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060919#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: JacekK to suggest in email to Rama, Joel and Holger (cc mailing list) to remove appendix B from spec, move to usage guide [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060919#action08]
[DONE] ACTION: JacekK to suggest rewording for first paragraph of section 2.2 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060919#action06]