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Semantic Annotations for WSDL WG teleconference

26 Sep 2006

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Attendees

Present
RA, JF, LF, JK, HL, EP, AS, TV
Regrets
CB, LH, CP, BNS, CV
Chair
JacekK
Scribe
holger

Contents


Approval of minutes

RESOLUTION: minutes of last telcon approved

Action Item review

<scribe> ACTION: EricP to add text gravy to his annotated Amazon WSDL and put itin Examples document [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060926#action01]

<scribe> ACTION: EricP to get feedback from XMLCore about attrExtensions element [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060926#action02]

<scribe> ACTION: JacekK to put appropriate WG members in bad standing, and not reference them in the acknowledgements [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060926#action03]

<scribe> ACTION: EricP to investigate relation of SAWSDL to WS-MEX [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060926#action04]

Administrivia

JacekK: Amit, what is the status of the fees regarding the next f2f, can it be covered from the labs budget?

Amit: will try to cover costs for room, internet & coffee

JacekK: usually it's room, internet, coffee and some kind of lunch, no other req. on hosting, especially hosted dinner is not required

no objection to skip telcons 2006/10/10, 2006/11/7

Document status, publication

JacekK: identifying candidate groups from which we should request review
... WS-Description working group, XML schema working group, XML data binding group, semantic web services IG semantic web IG
... for the IG we can request review but it can not be expected that they provide a formal review
... additional review candidates weclome

ThomasV: Oasis Semantic Execution Environment Technical Comitee might be interested in review

ericP: anouncement should be sent to many mailing lists

JacekK: will be anounced to many lists as appropriate
... usage guide should be published as First Public Working Draft (before it becomes a WG Note)
... now going through my comments on the usage guide

<ericP> Jacek's pre-pub changes

JacekK: first item is about correct URIs

ericP: either example.com or example.org or foo.example OR the URIs need to resolve

JacekK: suggest http://example.com

ericP: If you need to simulate 2 organisations use foo.example and bar.example

JacekK: points out where 1d) occurs in document

ericP: offers to help rama with URIs after call

JacekK: 2) put listing captions before the listings.

Rama: whatever is the standard is fine

JacekK: strongly suggest headings before listing

Rama: currently it is consitently after the listing

ericP: agree with JacekK

Rama: fine will change

JacekK: rename 2.a and 2.b to 2.1 and 2.2

Rama: fine

JacekK: complete listing 3.1-3

ericP: helips could do it

JacekK: better add 3 missing lines than ellipsis
... add an editor's note or TODO in section 3.2

Rama: OK

JacekK: fix the formatting of listings 3.2-3 and 4-3
... section 3.3 that it shall be merged with section 3.4
... in listing 3.4-2, add a modelReference (to the operation)
... 9) drop paragraph after listing 3.5-1 and the listing 3.5-2

Rama: OK

JacekK: 10) drop the last sentence from the paragraph after listing 3.6-1 -

Rama: what about adding precondition to a parameter?

JacekK: see the point, but a schema is designed to be reusable, and precondition on data structure would limit that reusability

ericP: probably comment out in this version, but pick it up for next version

JacekK: 11) add an editor's note or TODO in section 4 that the current leading text will be rewritten
... 12) add an editor's note or TODO around listing 4-3 that the XSLT,

Rama: hope that brahamanda has time to fix

Joel: Editor notes should be within the spec and not at the end in a table

Rama: section 4 JacekK can you send a draft of your input

JacekK: sorry, within the timeframe can only help with the email we just discussed, can also take inspiration from recent rewordings of spec

Approval of publication of Usage Guide

<JacekK> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/spec/examples/

RESOLUTION: working group resolved that the usage guide can be published as working draft

JacekK: AOB?
... ok that's it for today, last call will be published by the end of the week

Summary of Action Items

[PENDING] ACTION: EricP to add text gravy to his annotated Amazon WSDL and put itin Examples document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060926#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: EricP to get feedback from XMLCore about attrExtensions element [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060926#action02]
 
[DONE] ACTION: EricP to investigate relation of SAWSDL to WS-MEX [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060926#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: JacekK to put appropriate WG members in bad standing, and not reference them in the acknowledgements [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060926#action03]