Socialwg/2015-03-31

socialwg Teleconf 2015-03-10

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Previous Meeting

• 2015-03-24

Minutes

• socialwg/2015-03-31-minutes
• IRC log: http://socialwg.indiewebcamp.com/irc/social/2015-03-31

Agenda

• Chair: Arnaud (backup Evan)
• Scribe:
• Regrets:
  • Erik
  • aaronpk (will be on a plane)
  • (put your name here)

Preamble

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Admin

Participation

• Participation is limited to members

Approval of Minutes of 10 March 2015 Teleconf

• 2015-03-10-minutes

Approval of Minutes of 24 March 2015 Teleconf

• 2015-03-24-minutes

Minutes of F2F

• status?

Next Teleconf

• 2015-04-07

Next F2F

• Location in Paris confirmed! INRIA near Place d'Italie
• F2F3

Tracking of Actions and Issues

• Tracker: http://www.w3.org/Social/track/
• We need to dispose of the raised issues!
  • PROPOSAL Pavlik elf (talk) 16:25, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
    • vote to OPEN
      • ISSUE-19 WG communication channel explosion
      • ISSUE-20 Represent Collections using JSON Text Sequences (RFC 7464)
      • ISSUE-24 Do we put requirement on supporting static websites?
      • ISSUE-25 What syntax is (syntaxes are) to be used in the social api (eg microformats vs json-ld; form-encoding vs json-ld)
      • ISSUE-34 Context vs. Motivation
      • ISSUE-36 Role and evolution of recommended JSON-LD contexts
    • close ISSUE-23 as duplicate of ISSUE-7
    • close ISSUE-26 as duplicate of ISSUE-17 + create equivalent action associated with ISSUE-17
    • create new generic issue How ActivityStreams (as journal/log) fits more general purpose Social Data Model? than close and create ACTION instead (associated with new this generic issue) for: ISSUE-27, ISSUE-28
    • close and create ACTION instead for: ISSUE-18, ISSUE-22, ISSUE-29, ISSUE-30, ISSUE-31, ISSUE-32, ISSUE-33, ISSUE-35

Defining and documenting WG workflows

We can't do the actual work that our charter defines if we struggle with our workflows and collaboration channels Pavlik elf (talk) 14:03, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

• responding to [email protected] (we DID NOT respond - see archives: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-socialweb-comments/)
• Agenda workflow - our meetings can stay much more productive if participants prepare for them
  • PROPOSAL: wiki page for n+1 meeting already exists during n meeting, we prepare agenda together tue-fri and close it on friday
• Tracker workflow - if we need formal process to open and close issues, things like e.g. ISSUE-29 Removing Activity Types not used by User Stories will just slow us down. We tried using github for such details and it this particular case it even may fit IG charter.
• Where WG & IG can work together? e.g. Vocabularies, Use Cases and Requirements
  • ✗ mailing lists - membership restrictions, lack of participation from IndieWeb folks
  • ✗ W3C tracker - membership restrictions, no push notifications
  • ✓ wiki - no push notifications
  • ✓ IRC - no push notifications
  • ✓ Github - using orga account e.g. w3c-social or various personal accounts e.g. jasnell

see also:

• ISSUE-19 WG communication channel explosion
• ACTION-52 Discuss re github

Activity Streams 2.0

• Any Open Issues we can close?

• moved to next week: ISSUE-16 better separate grammar/vocabulary and improved spec structure (Socialwg/2015-04-07#Activity_Streams_2.0)
• ISSUE-36 Role and evolution of recommended JSON-LD contexts

Remaining ones from previous meeting:

• ISSUE-14 as:Link and current state of MediaObject
• Collections - how to model them and what we can reuse? — Pavlik elf (talk) 12:35, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
  • ACTION-44 Collection - compare AS2 design with LDP, Hydra, Schema.org etc.
• Strategy for ISSUE-17 Identity, Agent, Person, Persona, Account etc. need clarifications — Pavlik elf (talk) 10:49, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
  • ISSUE-26 Representing profiles in Activity Streams 2.0

Social API

• Status.

ActivityPump call for help

See the newly forked standard page and the mailing list thread

• History of the ActivityPump spec (and relation to the pump api)
• What needs to be done
• How to help!

Additional Agenda Items

DO NOT REMOVE THIS Additional Agenda Items SECTION, add more agenda items here (or in a NEW === section === previous to this section)

• ...

Remaining ones from previous meeting

• Discuss implicit knowledge / inference — Pavlik elf (talk) 11:48, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
  • ISSUE-12 Action Types Structure and Processing Model
  • ACTION-43 propose *lightweight* inference based on RDFa Vocabulary Expansion

Adjourn

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trackbot, end meeting

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